Can You Say Segue??

I hope you all know how to say SEGUE - 'cos obviously I don't know 'How To' segue!

I jumped from The Greek Gods all the way to Spiderman/Superheros without even creating a lead-in, bridge, whatever............segue!

(BTW-this often works on the comedy stage - but - definitely not in blogging lol)

Segue (segg - way):
Means - to make a transition smoothly from one section, theme, discussion or topic!

So - since I missed the opportunity, I'm going to head right straight back to OLDER mythology and characters again. Spideyboy will have to wait until I can learn how to transition better!

Here is a correspondence of Greek to Roman deities:
(from the Olympian, II-Generation group)

Greek: to Roman:

Zeus to Jupiter
Poseidon to Neptune
Hades to Pluto
Hestia to Vesta
Hera to Juno
Ares to Mars
Athena to Minerva
Apollo to Apollo
Aphrodite to Venus
Hermes to Mercury
Artemis to Diana
Hephaestus to Vulcan

Here are the correspondences from the I-Generation (1st) group:

Greek: Roman:

Gaea to Terra
Asclepius to Aesculapius
Cronus/Kronus to Saturn
Demeter to Ceres
Dionysus to Bacchus
Eros to Cupid
Hypnos to Somnus
Rhea to Ops
Uranus to Uranus
Nike to Victoria

The Olympians

(Most??) Prominent Account of Who They Olympians Are:


The Olympians are usually considered as 12 deities, or 'The
Twelve' deities who interacted directly with mankind. Their
parents were not typically known to interact directly in human
affairs, however, the Olympians certainly did, to a startling
degree. Zeus had several sexual liasons with human females,
creating demi-gods/goddesses (half-deity and half-human) who
had mortal lives accompanied by some special, supernatural
'powers.'

The Olympians are 6 main siblings, headed by Zeus in the
dominant 'leader' role. What Zeus says, GOES...whenever Zeus
can clearly make up his mind - and if he doesn't change his mind
too often!

Zeus' SISTERS: Hera, Demeter, Hestia.
Zeus' BROTHERS: Poseidon and Hades.

Altogether, the largely accepted siblings are Zeus, Hera,
Demeter, Hestia, Poseidon, and Hades.

To round out the twelve, six of Hera and Zeus' children are
counted: Apollo and Artemis, Athena (reputed to be Zeus' favorite), Hephaestus (least liked by Zeus), Ares, and Hermes.

What about Aphrodite, you ask? Yeah........ she's in there - but
we already have 12 Olympians. There's no room for more. Mount
Olympus is FULL ALREADY!

Okay - so let's regroup these Olympia-based deities then:

How 'bout......Zeus and Hera, with their kids - or Zeus' kids along
with Hera's kids:

Aphrodite, Dionysus, Athena, Apollo and Artemis, Hephaestus,
Ares, Hermes..........wait a minute.....that's EIGHT kids...

Yeah I know, I know - it's confusing isn't it?

Okay - THE TWELVE OLYMPIANS - final answer:

Zeus, Hera, Poseidon, Demeter, Hestia, Aphrodite, Hades, Apollo and Artemis, Athena, Hephaestus, Ares, Hermes, Dionysus (He is Zeus' son) - there you have it - the most common list of 14 of the TWELVE OLYMPIANS!

Yeah - I know, I know, again...it appears that I cannot count.
All I can say is.....

GET USED TO IT.

Make a choice...pick two deities and toss them OUT for now -
add them back in later when the 'myth' accounts require them!
That's all I can say. I cannot decide WHO of the 14 deities is
TRUE OLYMPIAN....they all are, according to dozens of
mythological renderings. I cannot say which 12 of the 14 are
MOST IMPORTANT.....because they all are.

As a really long strettttttttch of a notion, one may say that
because one of Zeus' daughters was born from his body (from his thigh) without a mother, that 'birth' is considered OUT...and take 1 other of the 12 'births' away because Apollo and Artemis are TWINS so there was only 1 birth experience.....that will get you to 12 instances of Olympians created.

No - this last part (about taking 2 away due to only 12 'birthing'
experiences) is NOT in a text-book - it was an explanation offered
by a peer during READING WEEK at the University when we
were collectively CRAMMING for mid-terms in
Mythology/Classics! As far as explanations go - you'll find that
it makes MORE SENSE than some of the ancient Greek
explanations or compared to instances where no explanations at
all can be found for deities who suddenly pop up where least
expected. Actually - the far-fetched explanation is almost 'Greek/myth' itself because it is INCONSISTENT with the fact that one account of another of Zeus' children, 'birthed' from his body alone tells of a daughter being born from a split in his head.....as if he 'thought her up??' LOL So.......then we can take away another 'birth' that wasn't 'regular' and have only 11 Olympians!

Yeah - I don't like that last bit, either - it's EASIER to just accept
that there are more than Twelve original Olympians, call them
"THE TWELVE" and move along to the GOOD STUFF!

By the way, along with these 12-14 deities, there are also Hebe
("Youth"), Eileithyia, Phobos, Deimos, Harmonia, and Eros
included under this Olympian family tree!

Don't check these latter folk out yet 'cos they're likely to damage
your sensibilities as they come from brother-sister unions,
mother-brother unions...........yeah, it all gets very complicated
FAST!

Actually - if you've read up to this point, you're probably
confused as all heck. This is about enough information for one
sitting!

More on the Olympians next time. I'll post about what the
Olympians were 'in charge of' - example, Zeus plays a leader and
father role, Hera's concerns were for 'the family,' Poseidon ruled
the seas, etc...

Before Delving Into The Olympians

The Greek paradigm of deities is often criticized as having too many contradictions, too many 'versions of story' and other shortcomings. These things are TRUE, however, should not be considered 'shortcomings.' If you think of a little bit of history BEHIND the creation of Greek myth, characters, deities, etc., then the discrepancies in versions of myth, character representation, and other slight confusions will no longer hinder your enjoyment of learning about the Greek pantheon of Gods and Goddesses.

Just as a reminder - histories and hints BEHIND the 'creations' are found in the real lives of the creators who lived so long ago. If they were at a loss to understand certain events happening in their time, they had to start testing out 'explanations' that helped their minds rest more at ease in the face of great amounts of unexplained phenomena.

Likely, ZEUS (with his symbolic THUNDERBOLT) was a partial explanation behind 'why are there storms?' Quite notably, Zeus' personality has an unstable quality - just like the weather often does as it changes from pleasant to stormy. Zeus' moods are unpredictable like the weather - and he has problems with controlling his temper. When Zeus loses his temper (which is often!), he is described in much the same way that we describe stormy weather...violent winds (Zeus darting around, ranting and raving), lightning strikes (Zeus pounding his thunderbolt on the ground in a terrible fit), and howling wind (Zeus yelling and screaming).

Zeus is typically considered the 'Father' of all the Olympian deities, yet he doesn't ACT very responsible. His words are considered 'the final words' yet he often changes his mind about 'final decisions' once they're made. If comparing to 'weather' - Zeus is, again, much like the weather. The present state of weather is indisputable like the 'final words' of Zeus....however, the weather is bound to change - much like Zeus is apt to change his mind about things. If comparing Zeus' personality and characteristics to 'real people,' then Zeus is also very much like a real person. Many Fathers don't always act responsible. Many fathers are authorities in the household, yet will change their mind often about rules of the house.

One of the most notable quirks in Greek myth - is the account of arrival of one of Zeus' daughters. Even Ancient people knew quite a bit about the birds and the bees, reproduction, and other gender or sexual matters, however, one of Zeus' daughters is birthed directly from Zeus - without having a mother! One account says the daughter is born out of Zeus' thigh, which even the ancients would not have truly believed as fact.

The reason why an account of this would be taken in and 'believed' (passed on as an integral part of the story - from generation to generation):

To account for MALE AUTHORITY in Ancient times. The myth isn't designed to explain the gods and goddesses. The myth is created to explain social, power and gender positioning! Therefore - though the account sounds ridiculous - it serves a very important and serious purpose - to have males strive to take responsibility or positions as fathers, to place men at the top of power structures in society and in families, to re-assert MALE DOMINANCE in a society that did, indeed, have women in power positions from time to time. Within the vast pantheon of Greek deities, there are a great number of powerful, respected WOMEN. An account of Zeus birthing a child on his own places the male Zeus in a very mighty position, making a very strong statement about the power of men over children, the existence of men as individuals. (Wife, Hera also birthed a child completely without Zeus, in certain accounts involving the birth of Hephaestus).

These are just bare examples of the discrepancies that occur in Greek myth. To tell the truth, I've become more interested in studying 'discrepancies' than in detailing particular accounts of Greek mythological characters and events. The discrepancies hold great value to me - of explaining what the Ancient Greeks were like, why they decided to alter details of their stories, what characteristics and materials they valued years ago, which qualities they considered human vices, what kind of social positions they valued, etc. I will never be without material to study in this area. I have a long list of 'versions' to compare and of discrepancies to investigate concerning the Greek gods and goddesses. It it likely that I will know much more about the myriad of characters (thousands!) and their notable actions as a whole - well before I ever get even half-way finished my list of research items, simply because Greek myth is inherently FULL OF discrepancies and alterations.

I don't believe that one can go barging into Greek myth WITHOUT understanding the presence of 'discrepancy' in accounts. To stumble in blindly - expecting mostly 'whole' and 'reasonable' accounts of the deities would be akin to blindly expecting to learn Greek language within a day - without first the basics of how English works.

That all said, my next post will outline the Greek 'Olympian' deities and many of their interesting, mis-fitted discrepancies.

tr~~

Mythology - Not just 'stories'

Most just people think of fictitious and light-hearted stories when they hear the word 'mythology,' however the myths of old aren't just tales, fables, stories, and fiction.

Almost all myth begins as a valid 'explanation' or the most acceptable or necessary explanation available at the time of creation. Often the myth will be deliberately symbolic and dramatic - to run home a point about something that the creator feels is important. The original myth may deal with something problematic that the 'teller' needs solved, detailed, resolved, or represented.

Ancient people created 'explanations' to tell why things occurred all around them. This gave meaning to such things as natural events (daybreak, sunset, storms, seasons), animal behaviors (migration, mating, hunting activity), and other puzzling things in the ancient world. Instead of feeling that all occurrences, events and sights around them were all random and without meaning, 'explanations' gave the Ancients some PERSPECTIVE upon the world they were viewing, living in and interacting with.

In present day, we have mythical explanations, too - even among all the technological advances, data and knowledge that we possess above what the Ancients developed years ago.

In part - none of the advances we appreciate today would have occurred without myth-making taking place as a pre-requisite. Many of the greatest scientific discoveries have happened due to scholars and scientists seeking to DISPROVE or PROVE information and concepts surrounding myth. Without the original myth or story, there remains 'lack of wonder' about life situations, lack of basis for problem-solving, lack of 'hypothesis' - simply, one does not wonder why things are the way they are. Once one does WONDER - one can create a story which will last within reason - until it is either proved as entirely acceptable - or unacceptable.

Something that can be considered 'modern' myth - are 'common urban legends.' Most of these are difficult for the average person to 'disprove' or 'prove,' so information exists as 'stories' or myth, passed along from person to person - taken quite literally on 'faith' alone. Ghost stories, stories about strange coincidences, patterns of events - all fall into the large paradigm of things called 'MYTH.' Some of the urban legends seemingly more far-fetched are, in fact, mirrors of societal fears - used to serve as a heightened symbolic message with a purpose...warnings, suggestions (Don't go in the woods near the edge of town after sundown...) for some purpose of control. A virtually universal example is the societal and parental warning to children about not wandering away from home...

or else...

'The Boogeyman will get you!'

In all of this, it becomes IMPORTANT for people to value 'myth' and not disregard all myth as 'story-telling' or fiction. Much myth IS, in fact, fiction - but is symbolic, containing a bigger, more important message that often should not be ignored. There may not be a boogeyman, but it is still very definitely unwise for children to wander away from home after dark. On the other hand, if 'danger' is represented as the boogeyman, then DANGER certainly exists for children who wander away from home after dark. In any case - the myth about the Boogeyman isn't as ridiculous or fictitious as we might think, if we are the type to scoff at myth or stories.

Myth blends into urban legend, Biblical references, literature, science, health and wellness, our understanding of the animal and plant kingdoms - virtually permeating into all other realms of our existence. Not to mention the plain fact of the cathartic (the venting of stored-up emotions and the forgetting of real life for a while) value of 'stories,' in our hectic everyday lives. Certain presentations of myth are, indeed, plain old fictitious stories - designed for entertainment - however, even these can be said to have value.

I'll be back soon to post about some of the best recognized mythical characters - The Olympians.